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Dublin 2014 Eurocon Bid

When I heard about the New Zealand NatCon, Au Contraire, a week before Aussiecon 4, this year's Worldcon, I thought it was a fantastic idea. I thought it was such a good idea that we should do something similar in Dublin for the London Worldcon bid in 2014.

I mentioned this idea to a few people back home before leaving, and got a very positive response. I then mentioned it to some people at conventions down under, and they all said they'd love to come to Ireland. So I guess I was committed to running it.

Then another idea came to light.

For both Glasgow Worldcons, the Eurocon was incorporated into the Worldcon, and I assumed this would also be the case for London. However, since 2005, Worldcon has moved to a 2-year bidding cycle, and at the time when the Eurocon bidding takes place in Zagreb, London won't yet have won the Worldcon bid, so it won't be a convention, and without a convention it can't bid for Eurocon.

There seemed to be logic in Dublin bidding to hold the 2014 Eurocon, close to the London Worldcon in both time and location, to facilitate people travelling great distances. I know not everyone will be able to attend both, both for those who can manage the time and expense, being able to take in a second convention could make the whole trip more worthwhile.

The more I think about it, the more I think this makes sense. When Worldcon and Eurocon have been combined in the past, there has been a tendency for the Eurocon to get swamped, and consigned to a minor programme stream and ignored by the broader convention, and many who would have been interested in the European programming get drawn away by exciting Worldcon events. Having a separate Eurocon allows people to attend both, but means that the focus of the Eurocon doesn't get diluted or swamped by the Worldcon. The goals will be to promote Irish SF to Europe, and European SF to the world.

Regarding the dates of the convention, I'm strongly in favour of the weekend after Worldcon, which would be 23rd-24th August 2014 (possibly taking in Friday or Monday). This happens to be a bank holiday weekend in the UK (though not Ireland), so would make it easier for UK fans to attend. It also seems only fair that since we'll be piggy-backing off the Worldcon's publicity, that we should make it possible for as many of the organisers as possible to attend, which they wouldn't be able to do a week before a Worldcon.

I will be investigating possible venues. As it's peak holiday season, hotels could be expensive, but the universities will be on holidays, so could offer a good option for convention space and budget student accommodation (with the option of hotels nearby for those who want more comfort). I will also be looking at more traditional hotel and conference centre options, but will be trying to make it as affordable as I can to allow more people to attend.

We will also be investigating what grants are available from tourist bodies and arts councils, again with a view to putting on the best convention we can while keeping it affordable.

Regarding guests, I have some ideas, and at Aussiecon I spoke to some great writers who said they'd love to come to Ireland. However it's much too early to talk names. I would be keen to have a mix of Irish, European and World guests.

I have set up a Facebook page, and will soon set up a website for the bid. Please "like" us to show your support. If you can make it to Octocon, there will be a discussion about the bid there, and hopefully we'll start setting up a bid committee.

So that's it for the moment. I'd welcome any comments or suggestions, so please let me know what you think.



Chris Kuan's picture

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Seriously though, I had a holiday in Ireland after EasterCon in 2008 and loved it. I'm sure many others would feel the same way about traveling on to Ireland after London2014.

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Very good idea. I'd been keen to support this but I don't Facebook --I just don't do social networking.

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Really appreciate your feedback, and your support. You certainly don't need a FaceBook account. We'll have a proper website up and running soon.

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Alan's picture

If you do start attempting to stage a Eurocon the weekend next to Worldcon, could you try to liaise with Natural20, who has made some initial mutterings about scheduling the 2014 Discworld Convention on one of the two weekends (for much the same reason). It'd be cool to have cons three weekends in a row.

2014 London Worldcon and Eurocon?

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True, while London 2014 is only bidding to be a Worldcon it cannot bid for a Eurocon (until it is officially a Worldcon).

However _if_ the team _intended_ to bid for being a Eurocon in the (likely) event it becomes a Worldcon, then it needs to put a marker down at the next ESFS business meeting (Sweden 2011).

Actually this needed to have already been done this year (2010, Poland) because the Eastercon 2012 bid to be a Eurocon but lost because the feeling was that 2014 London would be a Eurocon. In short, the 2014 Worldcon bid team's silence cost the 2012 Eurocon London its bid.

Now, there is no reason why a British Worldcon should also be a Eurocon (a number have not): it could go for ESFS Euroconference status instead. This option could work in 2014's London's favour in that there could be a British Eurocon the year before London 2014 which could serve to rally European interest in the Worldcon, also if there was a seperate Eurocon in 2014 earlier in the year that could be another rallying point for the European dimension to the 2014 Worldcon.

See Eurocon 2013 discussion here.


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